So, which echo is the best ?

[dave robinson]

Ok, back to the purpose of the thread. Which echo is the best? For me it is the ESE echomatic 6SE, having had it's head spacings adjusted it is by far the best machine I have used........... my opinion only of course

That's more like it Peter, thanks.

[hansaustria]

Whats about the price, how much is it ?

Hans

[kipper]

When this pic was taken, I had not yet a camcorder with external mic input, so I used a Zoom H2 sound recorder alongside the camcorder, but later replacing the camcorder sound by the one from the Zoom H2, and synchronizing it was rather complicate !

I use a Zoom H4 recorder as the main sound recording but the problem was , as you say, Didier , synchronisation.
My main camcorder for a number of years was a Canon DV , forgot the model but the sound used to drift on it , out of time with the H4. Perhaps it was tape stretch,

off this topic i know. but that jet harris clip is brilliant. thanks for showing it again. peter

[keithmantle]

Whats about the price, how much is it ?

Hans

Eric let me have the last but one mk6 SE(6 Head) for £1850, but this was without Amanda adjusting the head spacings, so add on a couple hundred !!, But Robbo and Tery Devon have always got great echoes from their Mk 4's (4 Head) in standard trim as far as i know.

[David Martin]

An excellent thread! Well done all... Fascinating!

[Iain Purdon]

Do I want one ? If what I heard today translates through a band mix to the audience - YES !

And that is, of course, the whole point. Sooner or later we can all get the sound we want at home. Getting it on stage with the other guys adding their bits, plus a hall acoustic, is a whole different ball game. Anyone who can crack that can take a well deserved bow.

[ErikMAMS]

Thanks Erik....
What's the depth would you think ?

Can't say about the Meazzi - total wheel depth is impossible to estimate from available pics - and not that important I'd say as longs the magnetic surface fits the heads.
I can measure my Binson wheel if you want?

Erik

[dave robinson]

Whats about the price, how much is it ?

Hans

Eric let me have the last but one mk6 SE(6 Head) for £1850, but this was without Amanda adjusting the head spacings, so add on a couple hundred !!, But Robbo and Tery Devon have always got great echoes from their Mk 4's (4 Head) in standard trim as far as i know.

You're right Keith, the ESE four head never needed any mods, I had the six head first and Eric told me himself that the four head was better and easier to use for The Shadows stuff which is why I went for the ESE Echomatic IV.

[dave robinson]

Do I want one ? If what I heard today translates through a band mix to the audience - YES !

And that is, of course, the whole point. Sooner or later we can all get the sound we want at home. Getting it on stage with the other guys adding their bits, plus a hall acoustic, is a whole different ball game. Anyone who can crack that can take a well deserved bow.

Well that's just a case of the other three players listening to the parts and learning them, instead of playing what they want and doing The Vague Brothers version, of which many are guilty, including ourselves in the past.
I know this from experience as we have Alan Jones with us on bass for Shadows gigs, while our bassist Derek, who went on to rhythm and drummer Pip learned the exact parts for what we are doing. Derek spent hours listening and watching Bruce with fantastic results. When I or my understudy Damion play with them it's almost like hearing the real thing - it's just down to learning the parts.

[ecca]

Thanks Erik, Stephen Mitchell has sent me a link to a brilliant Binson page that describes in detail the drum.....
It would appear there are 2 drums, one on top and one underneath. I can't vouch for that, I've never seen inside.
It makes sense though doesn't it ? The heavier the better for smooth running and minimal wow and flutter.

http://audioexmachina.wordpress.com/the-audioexmachinas-echorec-bible/#drum