So, which echo is the best ?

[Didier]

There are many recordings of Patrice's band "Guitar Express" on Youtube, with Patrice using his modified Binson, but they have obviouly been recorded with camcorder built-in mikes, which generally don't give a good enough live sound for perfect comparison.

Here is a recent example :



Didier

[ecca]

Right. so how do we put it on then ?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100g-Magnetite-Fe3O4-Magnetic-Iron-Ferric-II-III-Oxide-Powder-CAS-1309-38-2-/251291634243?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET&hash=item3a82260a43

[Patrice]

Thank you Ecca for the link
But the "problem" is to know "how can you fix the oxyde on the drum"?
It seems that it was Philips witch did the operation on the SEP Drums.
But how ?
I don't no... And certainly Dick Denney no more ?!
It's the reason why (if it's true ? ) he (simply) put above the too used iron oxyde, a piece of tape on the Hank's SEP model "F" (or J)...

About a "demo" of my modified Binson:
Sorry ! I don't have in stock a demo relative to My Resistance Is Low.
Now :
The "demo" that Didier posted, it's a real demo promo for "Guitar Express" turned recently with our new drummer Bob...
"Here", the video sound is the result of the natural balance of the three amps, "adjust" with the level of the drums.
And if we are "on stage" it's a fake !!! because there no audience in the room...

So:
For my own, and for demonstrating this modified Binson in real stage conditions, I would like to post a video filmed "live" in a Paris Theater called L'Archipel... (200 Seats) and with an real audience ! (Didier was there )
I have choosen from the whole songs recorded this day and we can find on Youtube, "Cosy" to demonstrate the halo of reverb obtained with a "drum" system + the electronic of an SEP (No effect added)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C5xhiHVmiI
I think (and I sincerely hope ?! ) that if you listen just the end of the song, when I play alone you'll recognize this special "color" of the "halo" and this amount of reverb that this drum system generate, and we can hear in the original recording (?!)

Patrice

[dave robinson]

Here's our 'Cosy' at Shadowmania 2006 using the ESE Echomatic through the Pinnacle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQMHQiPXOw . . . it sounds pretty close to Patrice's to me.

[ecca]

I wonder if it could simply be epoxied ?
http://www.iron-powder.com/types-of-iron-powder/iron100-iron-powder/

http://patents.justia.com/patent/5702821

http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US4462919

[Didier]

For my own, and for demonstrating this modified Binson in real stage conditions, I would like to post a video filmed "live" in a Paris Theater called L'Archipel... (200 Seats) and with an real audience ! (Didier was there )
I have choosen from the whole songs recorded this day and we can find on Youtube, "Cosy" to demonstrate the halo of reverb obtained with a "drum" system + the electronic of an SEP (No effect added)

I think (and I sincerely hope ?! ) that if you listen just the end of the song, when I play alone you'll recognize this special "color" of the "halo" and this amount of reverb that this drum system generate, and we can hear in the original recording (?!)

Patrice

Here it is for direct playing :



Guitar Express played there three days in a row in february 2012, but I was there the day after this video was filmed by someone else.

Didier

[Didier]

I wonder if it could simply be epoxied ?

http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US4462919

It's a patent, but no sure it's available...

Didier

[scotocaster]

I wonder if it could simply be epoxied ?
http://www.iron-powder.com/types-of-iron-powder/iron100-iron-powder/

http://patents.justia.com/patent/5702821

http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US4462919

Hi Ecca, I find your postings very interesting. I have a Schaller drum echo unit and it looks like it was laquered over the top of the iron power on may have been mixed with it when spraying the drum?. there are a few pieces that's come of the drum at the top but does not interfere with the heads. would be nice to have it recoated. Have a great day. Scott

[ecca]

Scott, can you do any close-ups of it ?

[ecca]

I found a good picture of a Schaller drum.........

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll22 ... G_1664.jpg