The White Strat

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Re: The White Strat

Postby Uncle Fiesta » 04 Oct 2013, 19:31

An interesting observation there Didier, think you could be onto something! If the Burns Marvins weren't ready, they may have built the Shads something similar to tide them over.

By the way I believe Burns pickups are slightly wider so wouldn't fit under Strat covers.
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Re: The White Strat

Postby Stratpicker » 04 Oct 2013, 20:02

ecca wrote:What's an SF ?


Sound Effects (added) - or were they real? Wouldnt surprise me! :D
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Re: The White Strat

Postby ecca » 04 Oct 2013, 20:17

I thought you meant 'squeaky feet. '
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Re: The White Strat

Postby Paul Childs » 05 Oct 2013, 09:56

The sound was never the same from back in 1962 when Dance On came out. The twang was lost which as already mentioned was probably due to different amp or studio settings. At the same time this coincided with the Columbia label going from green to black so the green labels had the twang!
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Re: The White Strat

Postby dave robinson » 05 Oct 2013, 11:25

I have said it many times throughout my existence on this community and each time the subject crops up more people smell the coffee - it was the change of amp to the Top Boost that was the big difference in sound, as found by many groups at the time who updated their Voxes.
Yes, the Burns guitars did arrive in the same time frame, but any Burns Marvin played through a Top Boost with those settings suggested by David Martin will give that distinctive 'naslal' sound, as would a Straocaster. Also a Burns will sound very similar to the 'old' sound used on Kon Tiki and the earlier tunes whe plugged into an ealy Vox amp and I would be delighted to demonstrate this with my current equipment. Trust me, there is no mystery to it. ;)
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Re: The White Strat

Postby Paul Childs » 05 Oct 2013, 14:16

Come to think of it, even a bit earlier on with Hank's solo work on The Young Ones, the sound lost it's twang and was more mellow, unless it was a different pickup setting?
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Re: The White Strat

Postby anniv 63 » 05 Oct 2013, 16:35

Indeed, that warm rich mellow bridge pick up sound achieved on Atlantis, seems to be the start of Top Boost making that significant sound change.
No doubt Hank & Co were well pleased at Abbey Road on the day of recording, especially if the amps were nicely warmed up beforehand, and
maybe Hank had a fairly new set of very well balanced strings to complement the "New That Sound" !!!!

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Re: The White Strat

Postby ecca » 05 Oct 2013, 17:37

Surely Atlantis was 2 separate tracks ?
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Re: The White Strat

Postby Gary Allen » 05 Oct 2013, 18:43

I always thought the burns sound morphed from the use of the RS124 compressor at Abbey Rd, Not just Hanks sound but the whole band," Dance with the Shadows" onwards, They never went back to the pre WL sound although they didnt have Jet or Tony (r.i.p), Hard to put in words but a lot of stuff coming out of Abbey Rd had that type of mix/sound in the mid 60s. It wasnt as clean as the earlier stuff.
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Re: The White Strat

Postby JimN » 05 Oct 2013, 19:09

ecca wrote:Surely Atlantis was 2 separate tracks ?


The intro overlaps the main melody at the start, so one of them was an overdub. Then there was another overdub for the orchestral part (actually, two version, one in mono and one in stereo).

The extra overdub causes some 50Hz hum which is particularly noticeable at the beginning of the track.
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