Damage on 34346?

[Tone]

Hi Rob

That's very interesting.........how did you know that the G pole sticks out of the bottom bobbin? Surely Bruce (I assume he owned the guitar when you saw it) didn't let you take it apart?

Cheers.

Tony

[Fiesta red]

If you are interested in pole heights,have a look at how low the pole heights are on Pete Framptons old strat.
You tube..Pete Geen's fleetwood mac ..Need your love so bad.. 10 secs into video.

[bor64]

Tony,sorry for the missunderstanding....regarding the 34346.
That's my cripled english language I reckon...
I never had the famous old lady on my workbench,but I handled it a couple of times
But the first two times, I didn't see that the G polepiece was of the same hight as the B polepiece.
I handled a bunch of pre CBS strats in the past 35+ years and two of all the 59's I toke apart had the same low pole hights on the G string possition as the 34346.
On the net (last year) I saw one set pickups with the same magnet configuration,and I had one set of 59 pickup's like that for testing in the late 80's ( I didn't purchace those because of the "fault"it had) . All of those live moments was before I saw the 34346 up close and personal.....whata mistaka da meka!!!
All of those pu's with the lower G pole,the pole was sticking out of the bottombobbin,so I assumed it is the same case regarding the 34346.

[abstamaria]

Just to be clear, is the conclusion that 34346 always had that sunken polepiece from day one? Is that just for the neck pickup or on all? If so, should reproductions of the guitar that have that pickup configuration?

If the G polepiece was sunken on all of the PUs, would that have affected the sound or the tone? I assume only the loudness of the G string, but I wonder now. Perhaps that accounts for some of the dullness or damped sound on Apache and the early records. Very interesting.

Andy

[Geoff Alderton LH]

Hi all.
The three flush pole pieces, G B E, on 34346 were all discussed in a thread about the Oasis music CRS Strat. This guitar was produced by the custom shop with the three flush poles, on all three pickups, as per 34346. Very interesting reading.
Regards Geoff.

[keithmantle]

Hi all.
The three flush pole pieces, G B E, on 34346 were all discussed in a thread about the Oasis music CRS Strat. This guitar was produced by the custom shop with the three flush poles, on all three pickups, as per 34346. Very interesting reading.
Regards Geoff.

Hi Geoff, I've just taken a couple of photos of the pups on my CRS59 but don't know how to post them, if you could send me your email by pm i'll send them to you, and you can put them on the thread if you want, cheers Keith

[Geoff Alderton LH]

Hi Keith.
Good one. Will do.
For info on the flush poles go David Martin's post, Sept 17 2009, The 50TH Aniv Shads Guitar in action. In Guitar and Amps section.
Regards Geoff.

[abstamaria]

Thank you. I just read through that discussion. Very interesting indeed. Here is a a link to the relevant posts: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=173&hilit=50th+anniversary+in+action&start=80.

In that thread, I think it was still unresolved whether the G pole piece stuck out at the bottom of the bobbin, which I believe has been confirmed here. Does that indicate that the pole piece had been pushed in, albeit at an early date?

The other question of course is why that arrangement would have been used at a time when heavy strings with wound thirds were the norm. Very curious.

Andy

[Geoff Alderton LH]

Hi Keith, Andy
Keith, here are your pictures showing your CRS Strat's pole lenths. Thank's for the pictures.
Andy, I believe on 34346 the G poles actualy stick out from the bottom of the bobbins. Hence the "pushed through" title in the Fender spec.
On the CRS Srats the G pole is flush with the bottom of the bobbins.
Regards Geoff.

[abstamaria]

Thank you, Keith, Geoff. That makes it very clear. I wonder why that was so with 34346? What effect would the stagger have on the sound? Very intriguing.

Andy