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Just seem this, seems fender are acknowledging lots of sunburst strats were refinished in fiesta red

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_ ... 2014442616

Steve,
I just do not undestand why any one would buy a relic'd guitar. I would always prefer pristine condition.

Paul

Razzmataz wrote:Steve,
I just do not undestand why any one would buy a relic'd guitar. I would always prefer pristine condition.

Paul

Hi Paul, yes I am with you on that one,

I am in agreement that paying for carefully and expertly trashing a guitar indicates too much money not enough of the grey matter. You end up with a guitar which is neither as it was originally designed or battered and beaten through wear and tear or beaten. If the effect is seen as desirable buy a secondhand cheap sunburst strat bash it around a bit get some paint from Halfords and create your own mess. When it is resold on e bay do you state no marks or dings. i saw a new Bentley the other day in matt mid blue with black wheels should have thrown lime green paint over it! could have added some value. Hey ho my age is really starting to show

Very true....years ago a mate in my band bought a secondhand Strat in London just before he returned home here to Australia after a working holiday in the UK.

It was 1970, and he paid about 80 quid for it- it was a beaten up Fiesta Red 1962 model...you could see all the old sunburst paint finish in the scratched patches.

He got our drummer to get it resprayed at work....black!!

I used to think exactly the same.

I've realised it's partly to do with the image of the band or guitarist. Well, I admit it is for me. I'm hoping to form a new group soon to play some rock and blues; a pristine, gleaming Strat (especially of the Hank Marvin/Shadows style) just wouldn't suit a skinny guy with stubble, jeans and a tired-looking leather jacket. An old Strat (or one that looks old) would. I'm seriously considering getting a Gibson 335, though (or the Yamaha equivalent, which is excellent and a lot cheaper!).

I've just taken ownership of a beautifully battered Strat body and now my project is to source aged parts to match.

J

MeBHank wrote:I'm hoping to form a new group soon to play some rock and blues; a pristine, gleaming Strat (especially of the Hank Marvin/Shadows style) just wouldn't suit a skinny guy with stubble, jeans and a tired-looking leather jacket. An old Strat (or one that looks old) would. I'm seriously considering getting a Gibson 335, though (or the Yamaha equivalent, which is excellent and a lot cheaper!).
J

Well, that's a well-trodden path, Justin - good luck with it.

You will find, incidentally, that the Yamaha equivalent of the Gibson 335 (the SA 2200) really isn't that much cheaper. The Chinese- or Indonesian-made Yamahas are good guitars for the money, but don't make the mistake of thinking they're the build- or sonic-equivalent of a Gibson. They just aren't. Only the "proper" Japanese Yamahas come into that category (and not even all of those).

My advice (given as someone who owns an ES-335 and a Les Paul or two) is that you shouldn't write off the Gibson Les Paul (don't even think of an Epiphone!), which is available s/h more readily and cheaply than the 335.

Best wishes,

JN

But Justin, surely, real blues players never wore jeans, old leather jackets, designer stubble etc- BB King and all the rest wore proper stage suits....as did real rock'n'rollers back in the 50's and 60's....such as the Shads, Beatles, etc

The whole scruffy blues rocker thing probably started with the Stones- it was different,original and outrageous in 1963, but in 2013....????

If you mean you are going to conform to the standard leather trousered 'bad boy' 'rock' player type image, which has been around since about the 1970's, then I suppose a 'road worn' guitar suits that image...don't throw too many TV sets into hotel swimming pools though...

if you're considering a Les Paul then you should also purchase a clothes prop, one that's adjustable in height.
Put said prop under chin onstage and adjust to suit height.
The guitar is quite heavy.

JimN wrote:

MeBHank wrote:I'm hoping to form a new group soon to play some rock and blues; a pristine, gleaming Strat (especially of the Hank Marvin/Shadows style) just wouldn't suit a skinny guy with stubble, jeans and a tired-looking leather jacket. An old Strat (or one that looks old) would. I'm seriously considering getting a Gibson 335, though (or the Yamaha equivalent, which is excellent and a lot cheaper!).
J

Well, that's a well-trodden path, Justin - good luck with it.

You will find, incidentally, that the Yamaha equivalent of the Gibson 335 (the SA 2200) really isn't that much cheaper. The Chinese- or Indonesian-made Yamahas are good guitars for the money, but don't make the mistake of thinking they're the build- or sonic-equivalent of a Gibson. They just aren't. Only the "proper" Japanese Yamahas come into that category (and not even all of those).

My advice (given as someone who owns an ES-335 and a Les Paul or two) is that you shouldn't write off the Gibson Les Paul (don't even think of an Epiphone!), which is available s/h more readily and cheaply than the 335.

Best wishes,

JN

I agree Jim. If he's even considering an Epiphone he should retire. Have a look at a Gibson, Les Paul or 335, then look at a Yamaha, then look at the Gibson again and don't even think about anything else!!