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G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2015, 14:42
by alanbakewell
Having really only used a Zoom RFX 2000 with EFTP for some ten years or more, I was really in no great
rush to change, upgrade or experiment with anything better. Until recently.
Last year Roger Bayliss was kind enough to let me use his Zoom G3X in my recording studio, ( Alright then, conservatory ). ;)

Being able to do a direct A/B comparison I was able to appreciate what a terrific piece of kit the Zoom G3X is.

However for as good as it is, I did nothing about it until listening to Dave Robinson's recordings of various tunes
using his own patches. Now, I was beginning to appreciate what a difference there actually was. And, just how
good the G3X could be with professionally set up patches.

Dave is a professional musician and earns his living by playing, performing and recording music. As I understand it,
had Dave continued creating patches and sharing them, he would have been a very popular professional musician
who starved to death quite quickly due to lack of time to do what he does best.

Quite recently I read Ross Hall's contribution on Shadow Music. I soon realised that Ross could provide what I wanted with
no effort on my part. ( Being afflicted with rank bone idleness and no shortage of apathy I realised this was the course for me. )

I contacted Ross to see what it was that I got and received a comprehensive e-mail explaining the step by step instructions
to downloading his patches onto my G3X.
I should explain that when "Computer Savvy" was distributed I must have been off sick that day. However, the whole process of receiving
and downloading the patches could not have been simpler. Now for the good part.

The patches themselves are superb. I am delighted with the quality and of course the sounds are terrific.

There are patches for some 37 different patches. each with a "With Amp. Simulation" or "Without Amp Simulation" 74 patches in all.
Covering some 220 tunes plus extras such as "Abbey road reverb", "Surf reverb", "Duane". ( I dare you to turn this on and not play
the lead break from "Guitar Man" ) and more.

So, I now have patches that are extremely accurate. I have a unit that is simplicity itself to use and access these patches.
I have a sound that is better than it's ever been. And, for me, another important factor. I have the support of Ross Hall
himself. By whatever means. E-Mail, telephone, whatever.

Sorry to waffle on. But, this unit and these patches have re-awakened my interest in playing guitar.

Apologies to Ross Hall if I've inadvertently misrepresented anything here.

Cheers, Alan.

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2015, 20:23
by kipper
hi alan nice to hear a really positive story these days well said that man :o . peter

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2015, 20:35
by dave robinson
I'm glad you like it Alan, I too found that the G3x is a fabulous piece of kit and have echoed (pun intended) my thoughts ever since - Enjoy ! :)

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 28 Feb 2015, 21:33
by jimuc
Well said Alan.
You will certainly find a huge difference between the G3X and he RFX2000.
There is no comparison.
Enjoy (I am sure you will)
All the Best
Jim

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2015, 13:08
by gibbo3272
Hello Alan,

Really appreciate your post. For some time I have been contemplating contacting Ross Hall re his Echo Patches as I have a Yamaha MagicStomp installed with Charlie Hall’s EFTP patches but have recently brought a Zoom G3 after reading the glowing comments from Dave Robinson and am not disappointed – it’s the complete real deal all in one compact unit. Reading your positive comments I can only concurr re Dave being a professional musician and should not be a starving one at that.

I contacted Ross and not being Computer Savvy as you say ( I think I went missing in action when they distributed Computer Savvy), the whole process was painless, Ross’s communication was fantastic an his instructions easy to follow. I now have his patches installed (on a Mac) and could not be happier. As I mentioned to Ross, years ago I worked for a company here in Perth, Western Australia called BAKEWELL PIES, their jingo was:

Bakewell Pies are good for you,
Bakewell Pies are swell,
Don’t just ask for any old pie,
Always ask or a Bakewell.

Thanks Alan and thanks to Ross Hall and this forum for all the information and knowlege as bedroom players we gain from this forum

Geoff

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2015, 13:50
by keithmantle
alanbakewell wrote:Having really only used a Zoom RFX 2000 with EFTP for some ten years or more, I was really in no great
rush to change, upgrade or experiment with anything better. Until recently.
Last year Roger Bayliss was kind enough to let me use his Zoom G3X in my recording studio, ( Alright then, conservatory ). ;)

Being able to do a direct A/B comparison I was able to appreciate what a terrific piece of kit the Zoom G3X is.

However for as good as it is, I did nothing about it until listening to Dave Robinson's recordings of various tunes
using his own patches. Now, I was beginning to appreciate what a difference there actually was. And, just how
good the G3X could be with professionally set up patches.

Dave is a professional musician and earns his living by playing, performing and recording music. As I understand it,
had Dave continued creating patches and sharing them, he would have been a very popular professional musician
who starved to death quite quickly due to lack of time to do what he does best.

Quite recently I read Ross Hall's contribution on Shadow Music. I soon realised that Ross could provide what I wanted with
no effort on my part. ( Being afflicted with rank bone idleness and no shortage of apathy I realised this was the course for me. )

I contacted Ross to see what it was that I got and received a comprehensive e-mail explaining the step by step instructions
to downloading his patches onto my G3X.
I should explain that when "Computer Savvy" was distributed I must have been off sick that day. However, the whole process of receiving
and downloading the patches could not have been simpler. Now for the good part.

The patches themselves are superb. I am delighted with the quality and of course the sounds are terrific.

There are patches for some 37 different patches. each with a "With Amp. Simulation" or "Without Amp Simulation" 74 patches in all.
Covering some 220 tunes plus extras such as "Abbey road reverb", "Surf reverb", "Duane". ( I dare you to turn this on and not play
the lead break from "Guitar Man" ) and more.

So, I now have patches that are extremely accurate. I have a unit that is simplicity itself to use and access these patches.
I have a sound that is better than it's ever been. And, for me, another important factor. I have the support of Ross Hall
himself. By whatever means. E-Mail, telephone, whatever.

Sorry to waffle on. But, this unit and these patches have re-awakened my interest in playing guitar.

Apologies to Ross Hall if I've inadvertently misrepresented anything here.

Cheers, Alan.

Hi Al, With this unit would i need a seperate interface for recording gutiar/bt's ?

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2015, 14:05
by alanbakewell
Geoff, Bakewell Pies. Mate, I've laughed so hard there's tears in my eyes. Bless you for that.

Keith my old mate. Contact Ross with any queries. I've found him to be a mine of information and very helpful with any queries.

Cheers, Alan.

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2015, 14:21
by Hank2k
The zoom g3 can be used as a recording interface

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2015, 15:06
by roger bayliss
keithmantle wrote:
alanbakewell wrote:Having really only used a Zoom RFX 2000 with EFTP for some ten years or more, I was really in no great
rush to change, upgrade or experiment with anything better. Until recently.
Last year Roger Bayliss was kind enough to let me use his Zoom G3X in my recording studio, ( Alright then, conservatory ). ;)

Being able to do a direct A/B comparison I was able to appreciate what a terrific piece of kit the Zoom G3X is.

However for as good as it is, I did nothing about it until listening to Dave Robinson's recordings of various tunes
using his own patches. Now, I was beginning to appreciate what a difference there actually was. And, just how
good the G3X could be with professionally set up patches.

Dave is a professional musician and earns his living by playing, performing and recording music. As I understand it,
had Dave continued creating patches and sharing them, he would have been a very popular professional musician
who starved to death quite quickly due to lack of time to do what he does best.

Quite recently I read Ross Hall's contribution on Shadow Music. I soon realised that Ross could provide what I wanted with
no effort on my part. ( Being afflicted with rank bone idleness and no shortage of apathy I realised this was the course for me. )

I contacted Ross to see what it was that I got and received a comprehensive e-mail explaining the step by step instructions
to downloading his patches onto my G3X.
I should explain that when "Computer Savvy" was distributed I must have been off sick that day. However, the whole process of receiving
and downloading the patches could not have been simpler. Now for the good part.

The patches themselves are superb. I am delighted with the quality and of course the sounds are terrific.

There are patches for some 37 different patches. each with a "With Amp. Simulation" or "Without Amp Simulation" 74 patches in all.
Covering some 220 tunes plus extras such as "Abbey road reverb", "Surf reverb", "Duane". ( I dare you to turn this on and not play
the lead break from "Guitar Man" ) and more.

So, I now have patches that are extremely accurate. I have a unit that is simplicity itself to use and access these patches.
I have a sound that is better than it's ever been. And, for me, another important factor. I have the support of Ross Hall
himself. By whatever means. E-Mail, telephone, whatever.

Sorry to waffle on. But, this unit and these patches have re-awakened my interest in playing guitar.

Apologies to Ross Hall if I've inadvertently misrepresented anything here.

Cheers, Alan.

Hi Al, With this unit would i need a seperate interface for recording gutiar/bt's ?



No Keith recording via USB into computer direct.

Re: G3X and Ross Hall's Echo Patches

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2015, 15:51
by alanbakewell
I think I read somewhere, probably from one of Dave Robinson's posts, about using the amplifier "flat".
Forgive me Dave, if I've misread it or got it wrong. However, I took "flat" to mean both Bass and Treble turned off completely.

This morning I've done this. I can't believe the difference. The sound that was very good before has now become even better
due to this simple act.

For those of you who already knew this, why didn't you tell me before? 8-)

For those of you who didn't, you're welcome.

My enjoyment of the Zoom G3X and Ross Hall's patches continues.

Cheers, Alan.