Zoom MS-70CDR & MS-100BT Effects Pedal?

[sausage fingers]

I take it you can use the patch share facility on the BT model, just don't have anything with Blue Tooth on, i don't think so anyway
Technology is leaving me behind.
Rob

[dave robinson]

I take it you can use the patch share facility on the BT model, just don't have anything with Blue Tooth on, i don't think so anyway
Technology is leaving me behind.
Rob

I don't think you can - yet. But I don't see why not in the future.
I downloaded an APP on my iPad called STOMPSHARE from the Zoom people. It connects to the MS-100BT via blue tooth and allows me to update the Firmware and load extra amplifiers, echo machines, fuzz boxes, mod pedals etc from a list provided. I read that the MS-100BT Is capable of storing up to 190 effects boxes, so any that I desire that are not already on the machine can be purchased for between £1.00 & £3.00. Some are free, my five choices were 3 @ £1.49 and 1 @ £2.99 and one was free. There are many others, but these completed my needs.
The other machine I bought, the Zoom MS-70CDR, is a dedicated Chorus, Delay and Reverb pedal only. That is - no compression, amp sims, overdrive, fuzz and no pedal. They do a MS-50G, which is the same as the MS-100BT for what it offers sound-wise, but without the Bluetooth option, you use a USB cable to update Firmware. That is cheaper at around £70.00.
It did seem daunting for a few hours, but anyone with a bit of flair can easily take advantage of these machines, they do sound amazing and the price is terrific. I am seriously considering whether or not I need to spend any more on my echoes. This matches everything I've heard thus far. I will post something shortly to let you hear what I'm talking about.
I have programmed mine up for our show tomorrow at The Acorn theatre at Worksop and am confident that it will do the business.

[sausage fingers]

Some patches for MS50 here....
http://guitarpatches.com/patches.php?unit=MS50G
I guess they will work with the 100 and g3 too, can't try em myself as i'm Zoom less
Rob

[dave robinson]

Some patches for MS50 here....
http://guitarpatches.com/patches.php?unit=MS50G
I guess they will work with the 100 and g3 too, can't try em myself as i'm Zoom less
Rob

Had a look, those patches are meaningless for Shadows type music, in fact I have watched all the demos on YouTube and I'm disappointed that not one of them show how to get the sound that WE like.
On the Andertons demo, those two plonkers don't even know the capability of the machine (MS-100BT) as he states that you cannot scroll through you patches with the footswitch - but I found within about half an hour that you can.
You have to read the user guide !

[dave robinson]

To answer the question from Ian (Leddo) in an earlier post, I find that the LoFi Delay and Carbon Delay get me closer to the tone of the Meazzi repeats, in fact they are not included on the MS-100BT, but I downloaded them using STOMPSHARE and it cost £2.98 for that little upgrade onto my MS-100BT. I also use the MOD DELAY to get the WOW into the echo.
I have also been experimenting using different echo types in the patches and have heard some interesting sounds, closely related to our Holy Grail. I'm convinced that it's all in there and will get to the bottom of it the more I play around. The trouble is, you need to be alone to do it as it can be annoying for people in the house while you keep playing the same thing over and over to compare. Right now though I'm feeling £600 better off. Stand by for some demos.

[sausage fingers]

Some patches for MS50 here....
http://guitarpatches.com/patches.php?unit=MS50G
I guess they will work with the 100 and g3 too, can't try em myself as i'm Zoom less
Rob

Had a look, those patches are meaningless for Shadows type music, in fact I have watched all the demos on YouTube and I'm disappointed that not one of them show how to get the sound that WE like.
On the Andertons demo, those two plonkers don't even know the capability of the machine (MS-100BT) as he states that you cannot scroll through you patches with the footswitch - but I found within about half an hour that you can.
You have to read the user guide !

Dave i just saw them, i know they are not shads, but its all fun to play around with
Rob

[dave robinson]

The point is, I've got fuzz, overdrive and modulation in bucket loads and it's what it is, but echoes are an art, getting the timings and multi-heads correct. They never show you that side of any given device. They are not demonstrating the product very well at all, I wouldn't buy it on what they are showing, as the capabilities are not obvious. Like I said at this point I could well have saved some serious money simply through being inquisitive and following up a suggestion from Rob.

[Ian Miller]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the info regarding your favoured delay modules. The only difficulty now is finding a quiet time without fear of interruptions to get down to some serious programming!
Looking forward to your demos.

Ian

[emielvisser48]

I recently purchased a Zoom M 70 cdr and I found it very easy to program Meazzi, Vox Long Tom and others.
In one patch you can store up to at least 5 heads and knowing the mSec, - dB level per head, it is easily done. You'll find the precise values on Internet. I have great results from The Rise And Fall... to Wonderful Land, The Savage and others.
For the moment I used the Tape Echo, but I will try others like Tape Echo 3 and Analog Dly.
Comparing the cost of a Zoom with other Echo Machines, it is good value for money.

I wonder if one of you had any result.

Regards,
Emiel

[Ian Miller]

Hi Emiel,

I also favour the Tape Echo module, partly because iy doesn't draw too heavily on the unit's resources. I have found that adding some hall reverb at the end of the chain adds dimension to the sound.
May I ask where you found the head timings and settings on the internet. I used a combination of information from Echotapper and the TVS site but at this time I don't think I'm quite there!

Ian