An effects footpedal with separate 'effect only' output?

[dave robinson]

Thank you Jim.

Now let me take the request a little further.

My G2 1U also lets me place the effects that I want 'next to each other' so that, say, reverb is one foot-tap from slapback and two taps from multiecho. Thus, changing between effects does not involve a large number of taps Does the Magicstomp offer this? I ask because I seem to remember you doing quite a bit of tapping when moving between effects on your Magistomp.

Dave,

Surely neither the Quad GT nor the Atlantis are footpedals?

Ray

Correct, but your criteria was as follows;

Most important are

1. That it is a foot-pedal unit (or at least a rack with a foot-controller which includes the above buttons and display) = Alesis Quad GT or Atlantis
2. That there is a separate output which carries ONLY the effect signal.

[rogera]

Roger,

Thanks for the suggestion - presumably the display is only on the rack units, which would involve turning round on stage between numbers, which is what I was trying to avoid.

Ray

I appreciate that a footswitch as I suggested would not give an indication of what patch is selected but the patches that you wish to use can be saved into the order that you want to use them and placed into the 'user' section of memory. You can then set the unit to recall each patch in order with a tap of the footswitch.

[JimN]

My G2 1U also lets me place the effects that I want 'next to each other' so that, say, reverb is one foot-tap from slapback and two taps from multiecho. Thus, changing between effects does not involve a large number of taps Does the Magicstomp offer this? I ask because I seem to remember you doing quite a bit of tapping when moving between effects on your Magistomp.
Ray

Yes, Ray - the Yamaha lets you place the effect patches right next to each other if that's what you want to do. On the one I have in use, I have three echo patches, and two reverbs, which I use most commonly, right next to each other.

JN

[RayL]

Thanks to all for your suggestions.

It's probably about time that I explained exactly what was behind my request.
The effects unit that I am looking for is not to be used with guitar, it is for vocals.

As a band, we can't afford to have someone out front mixing the PA so the balance has to be done on the basis of a soundcheck and good integration between band members.

When you are playing for dancers and they are having a good time, they don't want to leave the floor. That means either segues, or the briefest of breaks between numbers, maybe just long enough to announce the next tune.

Turning round with one's back to the audience, or grovelling around on the floor, to fiddle around with settings on equipment between songs looks unprofessional, and slows down the pace of the evening, A quick tap or two on a footpedal and maybe a glance at a display at one's feet takes only a second or so.

At present, to overcome the lack of a separate effects output from the G2 1U I am mixing the five vocal mics on the mixer's mic channel pre-fade Aux pots, sending that mix down to the G2 1U on the floor and returning it to one of the mixer's Line inputs. The main mic faders all have to be at zero, otherwise the combinations of 'dry' and 'dry + effect' (when played against the usual compromise of "up to howlround and then back off a smidge") get too convoluted to be sensible, especially when dealing with five mics at different places on the stage which are all getting return signal from monitor wedges and the main PA speakers (and the return from the latter changing as the audience come in and alter the hall acoustics).

You can see the disadvantages of the above setup - no separate mic mixes possible for the PA and for the monitors and the vulnerable nature of sending the entire mic mix on a long cable down to a box on the floor and back up again.

Although we work from setlists, the pace of the evening sometimes necessitates changes to the order, or even cutting numbers, so it is not possible to simply set up effects 'in a row' and tap through them one by one. The set-up of the floor pedal unit has to offer flexibility to go back and forth between effects using a relatively small number of foot-taps, and with a display at floor level that shows what effect is selected in nice big illuminated letters and numbers.

Jim, if we can arrange something, I'd like to take up your offer of trying out one of your Magicstomps. I'll be in touch by email.

Ray

[John Haldane]

Hi Ray
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Regards
John H

[RogerCook]

It should be possible (in theory at least!) to control a Quadraverb via a midi foot controller (eg one of the Roland or possibly Behringer range) and have up/down program change capability and a display on the foot controller.