Interesting Guitar sound innovation

[ecca]

It isn't just the voices Abel, the GR55 also combines the VG8 which is a virtual guitar device.
It does various guitars with a huge amount of variations to spectacular result.
The Peace Pipe I put up recently on the sound file section was an emulation of a strat, not a real one.
I was expecting comment but got not a jot.
It's brilliant, the 5th Guitar synth I've had since the first in 1988.

[abel]

Eric,

I understand what you are saying, and probably the GR-55 does add a new dimension by fusioning with the VG8,
but I fail to see why I would use a synth to emulate a sound I have in my strat.
Instead, I would use the 500 instruments patches to simulate instruments that I can never dream of playing or having one day.
For example, with my band, with played "The Next Time" with Danny Dean singing.
I used the synth to play the "Clavecin" like part all along the tune.
It was absolutely stunning. I played the whole part, and intro, outro almost to perfection.
You cannot imagine the difference it makes. It's really like having the instrument in the room.
I had it plugged into the P.A, so it was in great stereo.
The song will be part of our Tribute CD to Cliff & The Shadows.
I also played the keyboard part in our recording of "Atlantis" and it really helps.
The point is to use your guitar skills, but to play in the spirit of the instrument you are emulating.

Here I am using an Accordeon patch: (right after the very short intro). There was a short latency problem that you probably don't have
anymore with your GR-55.

Hope you like it:



Ok let's not divert from the original subject of the thread which is about the complete spectrum of possible sound combinations you can naturally extract
from a regular strat, and that something I am really willing to at least give it a try.
We will hear the results and make our judgements after I get it and experiment with it.

Blessings,
Abel

[ecca]

I remember a gig some 12 or 13 years ago when I was playing a Les Paul at the time.
The set list was such that there were quite a lot of emulated guitar modelling tones from the Roland VG8 Guitar modeller, like the Gretsch in I Feel Fine, 12 string Rickenbacker in You Can't do that, Acoustic guitar in Girl, etc . This being quite apart from the usual bombardment of instruments like pianos, flutes, brass etc. from the Roland GR09 guitar synth.
There was ,in fact little true Les Paul guitar being played.
A punter, full of himself, came up to me in the break and said knowingly; " You can't beat the sound of a Gibson can you ? "

[abel]

Hi Eric,

You know, I never payed any interest to Gibson, but now, probably because of you .... Jim Nugent, and probably Les Paul I would like to have that
sound to play some harmony tunes. I hope I can find it with the upgraded pickguard. We'll see.

Maybe you could record something in the Les Paul style with that very characteristic sound of the 50's for us when you have some time.

Blessings,
Abel

[noelford]

Abel, I'm looking forward to seeing a decent review of this scratchplate from you, once you have had a chance to give it a proper workout. I am a little concerned that you say you are hoping to find a good Hank tone in there somewhere, given that that tone was achieved, originally, with a perfectly normal, three tone-position Strat! Even so, a decent review and even a demo would be nice, given the very poor demo we've already seen.

Cheers

Noel

[RUSSET]

Have you got one Tony ?
It is a-maz-ing.

Hi Ecca,
No, I haven't got n GR55, but our band's Lead guitarist, John, has one & also has the VG88 & VG99 which preceeded it. He has, after a lot of experimentation, managed to pull a very good 'Hank' tone out of it, & the beauty of it is that it gives the same sound whether you're using Custom shop Strat or a Squier budget plank. The auto tune facility is also extremely useful for live work. He makes full use of the string, brass, keyboard & woodwind etc. simulations too.

Tony.

[abel]

Hi Noel,

I totally agree with you about the way the early sound was achieved. Basic strat, and pups.
I thought, since many of us with regular strats, have at one time or another come so close to the sound without achieving it (some did achieve similar
sound by the way), that maybe by tweaking one of the 35 differents sounds coming from the strat itself, I could get a similar sound.
In one way, it helps that the 35 sounds are so close to one another.
I am mainly curious about the combinations involving the MID pup and hopefully I will find a wide range of MID to pick from.
It just arrived today. Here are a couple of pictures:

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Blessings,
Abel

[cockroach]

Hi Abel

Looking at the two knobs and six switches, I wonder if the pickup combination wiring possibilities are similar to the various copies of the Brian May Red Special? (each pickup on, off, and in combinations, in phase, out of phase, in series, and in parallel maybe?)

Perhaps you could record a video or audio sample of the various positions please?

Thank you!

p.s. I wanted a guitar with all those possibilities years ago- but some years later, after owning a Godin guitar with loads of settings, I found that a simple setup was better for live use, especially when singing and also when playing!

These days I like two knobs, and one switch, and make do with a nice simple setup, so I can concentrate on what I'm playing...

[abel]

Hi John,

I am not really sure about the principles, but after I read the document relative to my pickguard, I find the same terminlogy you are
using, phase etc... (see document below).
The document they sent me also says that I can just snap the pup wires through the holes of the green unit in the the back of the pickguard,
and connect the 2 wires fron the Tone knob to the Jack socket.
It seems pretty easy, but I need to find a guitar I can test without damaging it.

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Blessings,
Abel