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Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 14 Nov 2021, 15:55
by GoldenStreet
At various points throughout, the sound of the plectrum against the apparently unamplified strings can be heard, particularly near the end at 1.50, which suggests to me it cannot be a genuinely reproduced sound performance.

Bill

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 14 Nov 2021, 16:59
by Tone
Teflon wrote:
Tone wrote:......... Dave - can the Shazam app differentiate between an original and a very close copy?

Cheers.

Tony


Not always. A while ago I tested it against some of the recording made by Robby Januarsa ("Suaragitar" on Youtube). On some of his recordings, it identified them as Shadows originals until a certain part of the recording gave the game away, and on one (Man of Mystery I think) it was fooled completely. Probably says more about Robbys standard of playing than any shortcomings with the app though.

Cliff


Thanks for that, Cliff.

Interesting thread!

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 14 Nov 2021, 20:56
by AlanMcKillop
In a number of his videos, he states that he is playing along with original tracks, which he claims allows him to get close to the original sound.

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 15 Nov 2021, 01:52
by JimN
scouserjoe2 wrote:...I was trying to work out which of The Shadows' versions of Wonderful Land that he could have been working with from which he might have simply removed the lead and was using as a BT. I was trying to listen for the tom-tom overdub that is only available on the original mono recording. It is near impossible to produce a BT by extracting the lead from that particular version, so if I could have detected the version he was using then it might have confirmed its lack of authenticity as a genuine original piece of work. However I was unable to decide.
Ian


See what you think of the Shadows' version at https://youtu.be/qdz9rav0h6I

JN

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 15 Nov 2021, 08:17
by fenderplucker
Hello Ian,

PM sent.

Paul.

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 15 Nov 2021, 09:26
by scouserjoe2
Jim,
Most interesting .. must investigate closer. :-)

Paul,
Have replied by PM.

Cheers,

Ian

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 15 Nov 2021, 12:42
by Tigerdaisy
iefje wrote:It sounds as though he's playing along to the complete original Shadows version, so with Hank's lead guitar sound present. I very much doubt if he reproduces Hank's exact echoing guitar effect of the original single version. It sounds too perfect to me.


Yes, I also have listened to WL many many times over the years and without a doubt you're mostly hearing the original Shadows track here, with this guy's playing very lightly layered over.

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 15 Nov 2021, 12:58
by petercreasey
The big difference for me here is that when HBM played Wonderful Land( or anything else for that matter) he looked as though he was enjoying it !!!

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 15 Nov 2021, 13:12
by nivramarvin
GoldenStreet wrote:At various points throughout, the sound of the plectrum against the apparently unamplified strings can be heard, particularly near the end at 1.50, which suggests to me it cannot be a genuinely reproduced sound performance. - Bill

The microphone of his camcorder recorded the original music from the speakers and his plectrum noises. The washed-out overall sound of his video is based on this.

Re: Check this guy out.

PostPosted: 15 Nov 2021, 16:22
by dave robinson
In the end as far as I'm concerned he fools nobody, but there's been a lot of time wasted discussing. Life's too short.